[Charlug] WTF??

[Andy Nichols]

Hi,

This should not be taken as a call to arms, but rather a wake up call to
those failing to adapt to our new situation.  We live in a world without
borders now thanks to our use technology.  Those who still live with those
artificial boundaries in mind are the ones who will fall behind. You are no
longer a citizen of America, but a citizen of the world.  These companies
have the right idea, these H1-B visa workers have the right idea, but those
of you who are rejecting this surely must know that this battle is futile.

I have since moved from Charlotte to Oslo, Norway for this very reason.  You
go where the work is and you can't afford not to adapt in a world of change.


On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Jason Edgecombe <jason at rampaginggeek.com>wr=
ote:

> Peter Senft wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really thought about this mail. And I am still not sure if it is good
>> to answer because I am still too emotionally affected by it.
>>
>> I feel *again* reminded of a time when an Austrian guy ruled Germany and
>> some dark mindset was planted in the brains of people. Everybody wanted
>> "Deutschland den Deutschen!" (translates: Germany for the Germans!). We
>> all know what happened then... What I hear from that senator sounds very
>> pretty much the same. And *nobody* in politics criticizes him! THIS IS
>> SCARY!
>>
>> In addition this senator should think about his request first and do his
>> homework. Visa holders by law shall be treated equally to a US citizen.
>> So there is no visa holders first possible until somebody changes the
>> laws! But hey, every politician lies more or less all the time and it
>> seems that it is so common for them to break laws that they suggest it
>> for everybody else.
>>
>> People get real. You try to work on some symptoms and not on the cause.
>> You live in a capitalistic country where greed is considered good. These
>> companies are greedy and they give a shit about people. All they care
>> about is money. But hey, let them lay off all the foreign workers. I
>> want to see the US workers that is willing to do these job for the
>> salary that the H-1B's got! These people are needed to hold the economy
>> up and running! But with all this pressure these companies think now
>> more about outsourcing. *That* will help laying off all the visa holders
>> *and* the US citizens and still the company wins.
>>
> There is another downside to sending the H1-B's home. We're sending
> well-trained professionals out of the US and they will be competing again=
st
> instead of helping us.
>
> I think the whole H1-B program is unfair to the visa holders. I say scrap
> the program and roll all of the visas into a permanent visa and raise the
> cap of permanent visas to accomodate the H1-B's. If companies want to
> recruit people from abroad, let them stay permanently and switch companies
> if desired. Let the immigrants bring over their families so that they will
> stay and increase the brain pool and work pool.
>
> Jason
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